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== Attending ==
== Attending ==
* Vanderbilt
* Larry Dawson, Santi de Ledesma, Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (Vanderbilt)
* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
* Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
* Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
* P.R. Blackwell, Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson (SFAU)
* P.R. Blackwell, Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson (SFAU)
* Martin Swany (UDel)


== Current Agenda ==
== Current Agenda ==
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=== Application Communities ===
=== Application Communities ===
* Geospatial -- TexasView/America View (P.R. Blackwell)
* Geospatial -- TexasView/America View (P.R. Blackwell)
* CryoElectron Microscopy
* CryoElectron Microscopy: Anything new?
* CMS Particle Physics
* CMS Particle Physics
** Ultralight collaboration?(Paul, Alan)
** Ultralight collaboration?(Paul, Alan)
** Status ROOT_L: integrating ROOT and LN technology? (Dan/Paul)
** Status ROOT_L: integrating ROOT and LN technology? (Dan/Paul)
* Astrophysics?
* Alan's trip to the West Coast (Alan)
* Alan's trip to the West Coast (Alan)
** Modern VideoFilm
** Modern VideoFilm
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=== Deployment and Operations ===
=== Deployment and Operations ===
*Review of [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/November_21%2C_2006_L-Store_Planning_Meeting_%28VU%29#Near-Term_Hardware_Deployment the current deployment schedule]
*The most recent [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/November_21%2C_2006_L-Store_Planning_Meeting_%28VU%29#Near-Term_Hardware_Deployment deployment schedule] for REDDnet and L-Store software.
**Is there any update on this schedule?  A timeline of what will be deployed where and when?
**Is there any update on this schedule?  A timeline of what will be deployed where and when?
**There are demos planned for the beginning of March (AV meeting in Washington at least, maybe OSG meeting in SD as well).  
**There are demos planned for the beginning of March (AV meeting in Washington at least, maybe OSG meeting in SD as well).  
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=== Technology: Hardware, Software ===
=== Technology: Hardware, Software ===
*Review of [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/November_21%2C_2006_L-Store_Planning_Meeting_%28VU%29#L-Store_Releases_and_Features current L-Store release schedule](Alan)  
*Review of [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/November_21%2C_2006_L-Store_Planning_Meeting_%28VU%29#L-Store_Releases_and_Features current L-Store release schedule](Alan)  
*Review of the notes from the [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/Informal_REDDnet_software_stack_meeting%2C_3Dec06#Notes_from_the_meeting Chicago Software meeting]
*Status of the work on Phoebus (Martin)
* Update on Nevoa development (Hunter)


=== Organization and Funding Opportunities ===
=== Organization and Funding Opportunities ===
*[http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2007/nsf07503/nsf07503.htm NSF SDCI] (Due. Jan. 22)
* Library of Congress funding
*[http://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=500066 NSF STCI](Feb. 8th)-- What kind of opportunity is this (Micah)?
*[http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2006/nsf06589/nsf06589.htm NSF PIRE] (Feb. 28th)-- Paul: Any word?
*[http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2006/nsf06589/nsf06589.htm NSF PIRE] (Feb. 28th)-- Paul: Any word?


=== Events, Education, Outreach ===
=== Events, Education, Outreach ===
*Given the current list of activities for the spring, consider the following questions arise:
*Given the current list of activities for the spring, consider the following questions arise:
**Are people down for both a track meeting and side meeting at the Spring Washington meeting
***Terry will write the submissions
***Can we get our funding people to come?
**Do we want to do a demo at the TRIDENTCOM show? Since it's in Orlando, is there any chance our Ultralight colleagues would like to get together and demo with us? If so what would we show.
**Do we want to do a demo at the TRIDENTCOM show? Since it's in Orlando, is there any chance our Ultralight colleagues would like to get together and demo with us? If so what would we show.
* List of upcoming events this Spring that we know about or that we're planning for. [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/REDDnet_at_Work_Page#Future_.28including_those_under_consideration.29  More details] about what's planned are on the "at work" page
* List of upcoming events this Spring that we know about or that we're planning for. [http://www.reddnet.org/mwiki/index.php/REDDnet_at_Work_Page#Future_.28including_those_under_consideration.29  More details] about what's planned are on the "at work" page
**[http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/ NDIIPP partners meeting] --- January 17-19, 2007
**[http://cms.cern.ch/iCMS/ CMS Week] -- February 26 - March 2, 2007 at CERN. -- Is anyone we know going to this?
**[http://cms.cern.ch/iCMS/ CMS Week] -- February 26 - March 2, 2007 at CERN.
**[https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=468  OSG Consortium Meeting] --- March 5-8, 2007 at UCSD
**[https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=468  OSG Consortium Meeting] --- March 5-8, 2007 at UCSD
*** Who will be going to this?
*** The [https://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=468 agenda] for this seems pretty closed. Will there be an opportunity to do things.
**[http://www.americaview.org/ AmericaView Annual Winter Meeting]-- March 5&6, Downtown Washington DC and at USGS Headquarters.
**[http://www.americaview.org/ AmericaView Annual Winter Meeting]-- March 5&6, Downtown Washington DC and at USGS Headquarters.
*** PR and Terry are on the agenda
*** Side meeting with interested parties
*** May be a NDIIPP PIs meeting at the same time, so may be able to make connections between groups
**[http://events.internet2.edu/2007/spring-mm/ Internet2 Spring Meeting], Apr23-25, Crystal City Marriott, Arlington, VA
**[http://events.internet2.edu/2007/spring-mm/ Internet2 Spring Meeting], Apr23-25, Crystal City Marriott, Arlington, VA
**[http://www.tridentcom.org/  2007 IEEE 3rd International Conference on Testbeds and Research Infrastructures for the Development of Networks and Communities (TRIDENTCOM 2007)] --- May 21-23, 2007, Orlando, Florida To demo, a [http://www.tridentcom.org/pfd.htm 1-4 page proposal] required,due Dec. 31.
*** We have submitted proposals for a regular track session and a side meeting.
*** Expectation is that we'll be accepted for both.


== Action Items ==
== Action Items from December call ==
*Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)
*Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)
*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
*Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
*Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.
==Some Notes on the call==
==Some Notes on the call==
*The SFA group discussed the fact that they've set up a server and they talked with Alan and Santi on how to take the next steps. Santi and Diana are going to talk by phone to get this going.
*Discussion of software specifications for LN/REDDnet sofware
**We talked about the need to have specs for various interfaces so that different implementations can retain interoperability and people can be confident that what build on won't change out from under them.
**It's problematic because we have a schedule that we need to meet and achieving agreement on specifications can be time consuming.
**The most immediate challenge is libxio, which is lacking in various important respects, such as the ability to deal with the parity mappings that LStore does and the lack of caching.
**Parallel disucssion of need for (and current lack of) documentation and adequate comments of much of the LN code.
**Conclusions:
***Alan and the ACCRE group want to get libxio replaced as quickly as possible. So the compromise process is a) put the rough spec they will create to guide their reimplementation on-line, b) implement a new version of libxio, c) document the code d) go back to the rough spec and modify it in the light of the new codes/comments. The idea is that the spec that results at stage d) will be our initial cut at the community spec. and we'll work toward and agreed upon a community spec.
***A rough IBP spec which was once done has since been lost in the shuffle. Micah is going to try to recover that spec and put it on-line. If it can't be recovered, he'll see what he can do, working with his students, to develop something similar.
***Terry's going to get the LN wiki up and running during the holidays as the place that can hold all this specification work.
*We agreed that we wouldn't try to go for a demo at TRIDENT 2007. We're overloaded already.
*Dan Engh described what he's been doing with ROOTd and LN tools
*Alan briefly described what they're doing with Alan Hart. The goal is to have something he can evaluate by the end of January.

Latest revision as of 12:11, 26 January 2007

Coordinates

  • Time: 10:30EST/9:30CST
  • Conference #:510-665-5437 Meeting ID:7333

Attending

  • Larry Dawson, Santi de Ledesma, Dan Engh, Paul Sheldon, Alan Tackett (Vanderbilt)
  • Hunter Hagewood (Nevoa)
  • Micah Beck, Terry Moore (UTK)
  • P.R. Blackwell, Mike Coffee, Diana Gunter, Shane Jenson (SFAU)
  • Martin Swany (UDel)

Current Agenda

Application Communities

  • Geospatial -- TexasView/America View (P.R. Blackwell)
  • CryoElectron Microscopy: Anything new?
  • CMS Particle Physics
    • Ultralight collaboration?(Paul, Alan)
    • Status ROOT_L: integrating ROOT and LN technology? (Dan/Paul)
  • Astrophysics?
  • Alan's trip to the West Coast (Alan)
    • Modern VideoFilm
    • Library of Congress NDIIPP meeting

Deployment and Operations

  • The most recent deployment schedule for REDDnet and L-Store software.
    • Is there any update on this schedule? A timeline of what will be deployed where and when?
    • There are demos planned for the beginning of March (AV meeting in Washington at least, maybe OSG meeting in SD as well).
  • Discussion of alternative strategy for investment in REDDnet deployment - The general idea is to buy more, but perhaps less well provisioned nodes, and try to deploy them to more places where application groups will fully populate the rack with storage. (Terry)

Technology: Hardware, Software

Organization and Funding Opportunities

  • Library of Congress funding
  • NSF PIRE (Feb. 28th)-- Paul: Any word?

Events, Education, Outreach

  • Given the current list of activities for the spring, consider the following questions arise:
    • Do we want to do a demo at the TRIDENTCOM show? Since it's in Orlando, is there any chance our Ultralight colleagues would like to get together and demo with us? If so what would we show.
  • List of upcoming events this Spring that we know about or that we're planning for. More details about what's planned are on the "at work" page
    • CMS Week -- February 26 - March 2, 2007 at CERN. -- Is anyone we know going to this?
    • OSG Consortium Meeting --- March 5-8, 2007 at UCSD
      • Who will be going to this?
      • The agenda for this seems pretty closed. Will there be an opportunity to do things.
    • AmericaView Annual Winter Meeting-- March 5&6, Downtown Washington DC and at USGS Headquarters.
      • PR and Terry are on the agenda
      • Side meeting with interested parties
      • May be a NDIIPP PIs meeting at the same time, so may be able to make connections between groups
    • Internet2 Spring Meeting, Apr23-25, Crystal City Marriott, Arlington, VA
      • We have submitted proposals for a regular track session and a side meeting.
      • Expectation is that we'll be accepted for both.

Action Items from December call

  • Terry will get the LN wiki up and going (http://www.logisticalnetworking.org)
  • Alan will share the rough spec he's going to develop for libxio before he implements
  • Micah will recover and put on line the old IBP spec or, if that can't be located, do what he can to replace it.

Some Notes on the call

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